Wisconsin State Senator Glenn Grothman joins us from the center of the Wisconsin pensions debate to explain exactly what is being proposed. He also responds to Democratic allegations of Republicans getting tough on unions while giving tax breaks to the rich and demands that unions get to negotiate how much its members contribute to pensions and health benefits. What choice comments does Grothman have for Senate Democrats who fled to Illinois? Why does he call striking teachers terrible role models for children? And why does he call Barack Obama the most divisive president of his lifetime? We discuss it all in a lively conversation with Wisconsin State Sen. Glenn Grothman.